Small people matter
too
I know cars, particularly
second hand cars, more particularly Japanese imported second hand cars will
always have the possibility of problems.
But having previously owned five Japanese imported second hand vehicles
before I considered my purchasing one more would be as safe a purchase as any
motor vehicle purchase can be.
So earlier this year I
purchased a 2007 Japanese imported second-hand Toyota motor vehicle, not from
an Auckland City Toyota yard but from a general, well known Auckland City car
dealership. A 2007 Toyota Mark 4
Zio. A fairly standard 5 door sedan.
I chose to purchase a
Toyota import as not only is the brand Toyota is seen as reliable and
trustworthy but because I had owned 5 other Toyota vehicles over the past 20
years and never had a problem with them.
Choosing a reliable vehicle was critical as I am widowed, a pensioner
and had recently moved from Auckland to Taupo and needed the mental reassurance
that owning a good, standard and reliable car was imperative.
For a number of years I
had utilised the Grey Lynn branch (Giltraps then) as my regular service provider
for my Toyota vehicles and had was always totally happy and satisfied with all
the workshop servicing over the years.
Was in Auckland on
Saturday 5 August when dashboard warning lights in my Toyota flashed on, along
with an audible warning beep. First thought was brake fluid as light looked
similar to break warning lights I had seen on other vehicles. Checked brake
fluid, it was fine. This concerned me greatly as not only was it one light, but
3 different light messages, some in Japanese script - and seemed to only occur
when the vehicle was turn to the left or right.
I was due to return to
Taupo the following day but did not wish to do so with these warning lights, so
I did what I thought was a most sensible thing - immediately drove to your Grey
Lynn branch. The 'experts' in Toyota.
The service person, Janette,
was friendly and professional and asked the Saturday mechanics to look at the
vehicle. The first thought the mechanic
had was to check the brake fluid - told him I had but he rechecked to make sure
it was fine. It was. So he took it into
the workshop to investigate further.
It took them some time
to come to a conclusion as to what the problem was and had Janette inform me
the warning lights and sound was the Vehicle Stability Control warning, which
made sense as one of the lights was showing VSC; they did not have the manpower
or resources to remedy the problem at the time and suggested I booked it in for
an official repair during the week, and suggested it was not taken on any long
drives until it was remedied.
I was due to return to
Taupo the next day but was certainly going to take the advice of the
professionals so with much juggling among family members managed to organise
another vehicle to use to return to my home in Taupo and booked my vehicle in
for 9 a.m. the following Thursday.
At 5 a.m. that
Thursday I left Taupo, drove to where I had left the Toyota then battled the
Auckland peak hour traffic to have it at the mechanical shop at 9 a.m.
Janette informed me she
would telephone me as soon as the job was completed. I was on foot, had no alternative transport
so relied on my feet to fill in the day until I was able to pick the vehicle up
and return to Taupo that evening.
An hour later received
a phone call from Janette - the mechanics would need it for 2 days to repair
the problem.
I enquired, why for 2
days? Was told the mechanics had not
worked on this particular model before and need to source a manual to read up
what was wrong. I asked if they were
waiting to download a manual from Toyota why would that take 2 days and, if it
was going to take overnight to download this information why could I not use
the car overnight while they did that. I
confess to being somewhat intrigued they would have to do this. After all, whilst there are not many Toyota
Mark 4 Zio around, it still seemed like a fairly standard Toyota.
Then I couldn't help
but think, hang on, this is Toyota, dealers who sell new and second hand
imported Japanese vehicles and have done for decades, yet it would take them
overnight to source a manual, via a website?
For they brand of vehicle they specialise in?
Another problem for me
was that the vehicle is in Grey Lynn, my only Auckland accommodation was in
Conifer Grove in Takanini, in South Auckland - mega miles away and I was on
foot literally wandering the streets of Auckland to fill in time while the
vehicle was repaired. Walking to Conifer
Grove was going to be one long walk.
Janette's response was
to go talk to the mechanics. I kept
walking around the city, for a few more hours, waiting, merely filling in the
time. Mid afternoon, I receive a call
that the car was fixed and ready to collect, that the Vehicle Stability Control
problem was all fixed. Hurrah!
I walked the many
kilometres back to the garage, paid the account, thanked Janette, got in car
all reassured and headed onto the Southern Motorway in the peak hour traffic.
Within minutes the warning
light comes up. Same light. As does the same Japanese script. Same audible beeps. Get to my Takanini destination safely, but worried
and had to wait until the next day to ring service office, again, to tell Janette
the vehicle stability control light, the Japanese script and the audible beep
still coming on.
I could not return the
vehicle that day as had to return to Taupo.
As there now seemed no urgency regarding what was inferred to as a
computer glitch, I booked the vehicle in for 2 weeks ahead, Thursday 31
August. And the next day returned to my
Taupo home, with the light still going, but the audible beep had stopped.
I returned to Auckland
early on the 31st and took the vehicle back into the shop. Then yet again walked the city all day whilst
awaiting word for when I could return to pick it up.
At 3 p.m. received a
phone call - they have yet to fix the car as were waiting for a Japanese
interpreter to come and decipher what the warning message is.
My first thought,
again, was - you've had 2 weeks' notice this vehicle was coming back for the
same problem, why could you have not done the research or 'Japanese
interpreter' organising before today?
Then, you're a
Japanese motor vehicle importing company.
Yet have no one in your company who can read Japanese? Really?
And it's now 3 p.m.
and you are only ringing me now to let me know that you've just got onto it?
Next thought was - why
do you need a Japanese interpreter to 'go in'?
Why could you not take a photo of the message and send to someone who
reads Japanese? Again, you are an
importer of Japanese vehicles after all.
I bite the tongue. I am hamstrung
and vulnerable being in Auckland and on foot. I tell Janette I am on foot,
filling in time waiting for the vehicle to be fixed.
She says she will keep
me updated. 15 minutes later get another phone call from Janette - the
mechanics have fixed warning light problem but inform me that after all this
time they learnt that the Japanese message says it needs oil. Really? In all the many vehicles I have owned, mostly
Japanese models, whenever there is a problem with oil the warning light shows
up with a picture of an oil can. This
light had no oil can. Was this
particular model the only model Toyota make that does not have the basic oil
can picture for the oil warning system?
And, you mean for the
three times the vehicle had now been in the shop no one had checked something
so basic as the oil? I hadn't checked it myself as it was newly serviced when
purchased in January so never considered that oil would be the issue. Plus,
there was no picture warning showing an oil can.
Janette's question, 'would
I like them to oil service it .... ? .... for $260?
Did I have a choice?
No I didn't. I had driven up from Taupo
twice to have this 'Vehicle Stability Control' problem fixed, now I am being
told that it wasn't Vehicle Stability Control at all that I had paid to have
fixed on the previous occasion; that the
warning was for low, or no oil. I feel
annoyed that I had driven it to Taupo and back when an oil warning was up. Yet
no one had checked the oil.
Am now concerned, very
concerned, re any possible long term damage of driving with little, or maybe no
oil?
And, am being told to
do an oil service it will cost $260 - but what about the Vehicle Stability
problem? Is that still a problem? Was that merely a computer glitch, despite the
light showing VSC? Am I now expected to be charged to fix the
vehicle stability light which they said they'd fixed before. Yet wasn't? But was it?
I'm stranded in Auckland,
for the second time. I have no one to
seek further advice from. I am
hamstrung. Of course I need oil. Of course I realise I have to pay for the oil
change? But what happens now to the car
if it has been driving oil-less due to no one knowing or understanding what the
warning lights were, even though they were the 'experts' on Toyotas? And as a motorist I had done the right thing
as soon as the warning lights came on - took it to the experts.
There was some
subdued, and natural frustration vented on my part. Yes, please do the oil and let me know when I
can walk the kilometres back to the dealership to pick up the vehicle.
5 minutes later a
mechanic calls me, and repeats the same story about the vehicle having no
oil. I inform him I have already been
told this. He apologises and gets off
phone fairly quickly.
I walk back to the
service centre at 5.30 p.m. Your service
manager then begins to educate me on the possible long term damage that running
a car on no oil can cause. I let him
show me all the pictures and he explains it very well. I did not need the explanation, I have owned
and driven many cars in my 65 years - I used to own my own vehicle fleet for my
own business of tour guiding business.
My deceased father was a mechanic.
I know what driving a car with no oil does.
But he thought he was
being helpful, I appreciated that. When
he had finished I asked the obvious questions.
"This is the third time this vehicle has been in the workshop for
this warning light problem - I was told it was Vehicle Stability Control - I
paid to have that fixed - and it apparently wasn't because the same warning
lights came up - and now told it wasn't that after all but low or no oil;
therefore during these visits why is it that no mechanic did the most basic
thing and check the oil?" Surely
that would be one of the first things to check?
The mechanic originally checked for brake fluid but not for oil.
There was no answer to
that. He did offer for me to return the
vehicle after a thousand kilometers and they would check it for me to see if
there was any obvious damage. I did ask
him to explain how they would do that and what signs would they be looking
for. I needed to know myself. It would mean having to call into the
workshop on another visit to Auckland, which would be well over 1,000
kilometres.
I paid the account,
got into my car somewhat flummoxed, irritated, annoyed and sadly
disappointed. Yes, every business has
one customer a week whose job they've maybe not handled too well. When one is a female, 65 years old one feels
somewhat vulnerable and possibly 'taken for a ride'.
I drive back to Taupo
the next day. Still somewhat
disappointed and disgruntled after sharing the story with a number of friends
who, as friends do, come up with wise words of post-event wisdom that really
are of no help whatsoever.
All was fine with the
vehicle on the drive back, no warning lights, no beeps, not engine seizure from
running it on lack of oil. Heart in
mouth I arrived back without incident.
Once in Taupo I use the vehicle very little, but keep checking the oil
level to make sure it is OK. I had to
return to Auckland three days ago. All
was fine until my return journey on Sunday when I was half way home - guess
what? - the warning lights and audible beep comes on again.
Same lights. With less beeps. How come?
I was told by the experts those lights were for oil, yet I'd just spent
$260 to have new oil put in - so was my engine finally seizing? I stopped the vehicle at my earliest and
safest pull off area and checked the oil again.
It was fine. I had no option but
to keep driving, and hoping, and praying that this really was just a computer
glitch and there was nothing major going to happen to me. I drove very modestly. I arrive home safely. Next morning start the car, no warning
lights. At all.
So - what do I do
now? I like the car. I cannot see I should get rid of it if the
problem with the lights in merely a glitch.
But I need to know whether it is just a glitch or not. For the 3 trips to the workshop I paid for
what?
If I had been told at
the outset that no one can fathom what the problem was, I would have happily
been patient and waited until someone actually did analyse correctly exactly
what these warning signs were - rather than have the 'professionals' guess that
it must be Vehicle Stability Control, then, when that didn't work, guess it
must be no oil.
What do I now do?
I write to the CEO -
so that I have this lodged now - not as a complaint, but as a form of
enlightenment of a problem so that if something major, or dangerous does occur,
I know I have done the right thing and written a full report on what has
happened; thereby the onus is back on
the workshop.
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